Joe Rogan Experience #800 - Bobcat Goldthwait

Episode Summary

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Main Topics Discussed

• Cryptozoology and Subcultures: Bobcat Goldthwait's experience at a Bigfoot convention, the researchers' skepticism towards Mothman, and his observations on the Bigfoot enthusiast community.
• Bobcat's Brother: A Wild Hunter and Poacher: Detailed, often humorous, anecdotes about his late brother Tommy's extreme hunting practices, disregard for hunting regulations, and eccentric lifestyle (including shooting deer from his toilet).
• A "Gay Billy Jack" Movie Concept: Bobcat's abandoned script idea for a gay version of the classic action film "Billy Jack," exploring themes of justice and acceptance.
• Veganism and Hunting Ethics: Bobcat's journey to veganism following a heart attack, his respect for hunters who consume what they kill, and a critique of industrial factory farming.
• The Fascinating World of Coyotes: An in-depth discussion on coyote biology, history, and their adaptive spread across North America, including their unique reproductive responses to hunting pressure and the emergence of "coywolves."
• Sexual Fetishes and BDSM: A candid conversation initiated by Bobcat's personal experience with a woman who wanted BDSM, leading to Joe Rogan's theories on fetish imprinting and his aversion to mixing sex and violence.
• The Jian Ghomeshi Case and "Male Feminists": Discussion of the Canadian broadcaster's sexual assault trial, the concept of a "peace bond," and Joe Rogan's speculative theories on the motivations and hidden rage of some self-identified male feminists.

Key Insights & Memorable Moments

• Bigfoot researchers paradoxically dismissed the existence of Mothman, highlighting the selective nature of belief within cryptozoology communities.
• Bobcat's brother, Tommy, was an outrageous character who cultivated corn in his yard specifically to lure and then poach deer, and even modified a station wagon into a "hunting mobile."
• The image of "Little Ricky," a little person, serving as a pallbearer at Bobcat's brother's funeral provided a darkly comedic moment, as did Bobcat's candid eulogy contrasting with the priest's.
• Bobcat's "gay Billy Jack" movie concept was envisioned as a "political triumph" for a gay 13-year-old, featuring classic action tropes with a subversive twist.
• Coyotes exhibit remarkable resilience and adaptability, increasing their litter size when their population is culled, demonstrating a unique survival mechanism.
• Bobcat's personal story of accidentally "stealing" a cat while trying to return what he thought was a lost pet underscores his deep affection for animals.
• The discussion on sexual fetishes delved into Joe Rogan's theory of "imprinting" during formative years, explaining how seemingly unrelated experiences could become connected to sexual arousal.

Notable Quotes or Revelations

• "Well, the Moth Man is not real." – Bigfoot researchers to Bobcat Goldthwait, on the Mothman
• "The way I describe is like a deer [censored] a pig." – Bobcat Goldthwait, on the taste of bear meat
• "No, I'm going to blast them." – Bobcat's brother, on his intention for the deer he fed corn
• "Father, I don't want to be, you know, impolite, but my my brother like to kill animals." – Bobcat Goldthwait, during his brother's eulogy
• "Well, he's gay now." – Bobcat Goldthwait, describing the evolution of his "Billy Jack" script
• "Sorry, man. I know I'm in your yard." – Bobcat Goldthwait, expressing empathy for urban coyotes
• "Well, we're all flawed." – Bobcat Goldthwait's polite and humorous response to a woman wanting to be dominated
• Revelation: When coyotes are hunted, it triggers females to have significantly larger litters, leading to increased populations over time.

Overall Themes

• The Peculiarities of Human Belief and Behavior: The episode highlights the often contradictory and sometimes absurd aspects of human interests, from fringe beliefs in cryptids to extreme personal lifestyles and sexual proclivities.
• Man's Relationship with Nature: Explored through the lens of hunting, poaching, animal welfare, and the surprising adaptability of wildlife in human-dominated environments, questioning our role as "intruders" or cohabitants.
• Authenticity vs. Performance: The conversation touches on the idea of performing roles, whether in BDSM, acting, or even political identities like "male feminist," contrasting these with genuine desires and experiences.
• Life, Death, and Legacy: The stories of Bobcat's deceased brother and his wild life serve as a reflection on how individuals live, the impact they leave, and the varied ways we process their memory.

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