JRE #43

JRE MMA Show #43 with Brendan Schaub

📅 October 03, 2018 ⏱️ 2h 13m 🎤 Brendan Schaub

Episode Summary

Main Topics Discussed

  • MMA News and Analysis: Discussion revolves around the lack of a main event for UFC 230 at Madison Square Garden, rumored matchups (Jon Jones vs. Gustafson, Jones vs. Cain Velasquez), and other fights on the card (Adesanya vs. Brunson, Rockhold vs. Weidman). A significant portion is dedicated to Gegard Mousasi's career, his departure from the UFC, dominance in Bellator, and Rory MacDonald's struggles with injuries and motivation.
  • Pop Culture and Entertainment: The hosts delve into comic book discussions, including controversial depictions of characters like Batman, and the "social justice warrior" influence on modern comics. They also cover movie topics such as the "Venom" film, the multitude of "Spider-Man" reboots, and the career evolution of actor Chris Pratt.
  • Travel, Food, and Amusement Parks: The conversation shifts to personal experiences at various theme parks (Universal Studios, Six Flags, Knott's Berry Farm, Disneyland, Disney World's Avatar ride) and travel anecdotes, particularly about Chicago's deep-dish pizza and the characteristics of its local audiences.
  • Social Commentary and Controversies: Rogan and Schaub tackle sensitive subjects like racism, discussing its inherent absurdity given human origins. A substantial segment is dedicated to the "Me Too" movement, the nuances of sexism against men, and the complex question of redemption for public figures involved in controversies, specifically analyzing Louis C.K.'s situation versus Bill Cosby's.

Key Insights & Memorable Moments

  • UFC 230's Main Event Puzzle: Joe Rogan expresses strong frustration with the UFC's inability to announce a main event for a major pay-per-view just a month out, highlighting the unusual "to be announced vs. to be determined" placeholder.
  • Gegard Mousasi's Underrated Status: Both hosts agree that Gegard Mousasi is a severely underestimated talent in MMA, possibly the best 185-pounder, and that the UFC made a mistake in letting him go.
  • The "Giant Dick Energy" Theory: A humorous and memorable tangent arises when an audience comment suggests Mousasi's calm and powerful demeanor stems from having a "giant dick," leading to a lighthearted discussion and a comparison with Yoel Romero.
  • Chris Pratt's Wrestling Background: Rogan is genuinely surprised to learn that Chris Pratt was a skilled wrestler in high school and college, further emphasizing Pratt's versatile talents beyond acting.
  • The Avatar Ride as "Numero Uno": Rogan emphatically declares Disney World's "Flights of Passage" Avatar ride as the greatest amusement park experience he's ever had, praising its immersive virtual reality and sensory effects.
  • Chicago Deep Dish: A "Casserole" Apology: Brendan Schaub hilariously "apologizes to the crowds" for describing Chicago deep-dish pizza as a "goddamn casserole," recounting his experience of feeling sick after eating it but acknowledging its deliciousness.
  • Racism's Illogic: Rogan articulates a powerful argument against racism, stating, "Every single [ __ ] human being came from Africa... Every person started out as an African," underscoring the common origin of humanity.
  • Louis C.K.'s Path to Redemption: A detailed discussion on how Louis C.K. could make a more effective, sincere apology (suggesting a direct video message rather than an impersonal statement) and the necessity of a path to redemption for those who commit non-violent, non-rape offenses.

Notable Quotes or Revelations

  • Joe Rogan on UFC 230: "I've never seen a [ __ ] pay-per-view a month out that says to be announced versus to be determined in the main event."
  • Brendan Schaub on Gegard Mousasi: "Gegard Mousasi was the dock guy is the [ __ ] sleeper of the 185-pound division... he just wrecked Rory MacDonald completely rectum."
  • Joe Rogan on Mousasi's demeanor (humorously): "Everyone's like how come he doesn't get more emotional because he's the fattest dick in the world."
  • Joe Rogan on Batman: "Batman's a weirder superhero ever because he's basically just a rich guy... he's Elon Musk on steroids and getting fight."
  • Brendan Schaub on Spider-Man: "Tobey Maguire's my spider-man... if your spider-man's anyone else [ __ ] you."
  • Joe Rogan on Racism's origins: "Every single [ __ ] human being came from Africa just like every single [ __ ] dog came from a wolf. Every person started out as an African."
  • Joe Rogan on Louis C.K.'s apology strategy: "I think he should... release a video rather than than a written statement because a written statement the problem is like it's impersonal... if you just went off the top of his head straight into the camera and post on Instagram."
  • Joe Rogan on forgiveness: "There has to be a path to redemption for anyone who's done anything other than actual rape or murder."

Overall Themes

  • Critique of Institutional Decision-Making: A recurring theme is the hosts' skepticism and criticism of large organizations (like the UFC's event planning) and their handling of talent or public relations.
  • The Evolving Landscape of Entertainment: From MMA fighter contracts to comic book character re-imaginings and movie reboots, the episode explores how traditional forms of entertainment are constantly changing and facing new challenges.
  • The Pursuit of Experience and Leisure: The detailed discussions about amusement parks, food, and travel highlight the human desire for unique and enjoyable experiences as a balance to everyday life and more serious topics.
  • Accountability, Justice, and Redemption in the Public Eye: A central theme is the complex interplay between personal actions, public judgment, and the possibility of forgiveness or a path back for individuals who have faced significant controversy, particularly in the context of the "Me Too" movement.
  • Objectivity vs. Emotional Reaction: Rogan and Schaub frequently attempt to dissect situations logically, contrasting rational analysis with the often emotionally charged or uncritical reactions seen in public discourse.

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